19 Key Takeaway Points From Bryan Rosner’s New Book “Lyme Disease Supercharge”



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April 22, 2019

Written by Lisa Petrison, Ph.D.

Reviewed by Daniel Cagua-Koo, M.D., and Erik Johnson

Bryan Rosner is a name that is familiar to many in the Lyme disease world.

In 2004, Bryan started BioMed Publishing Group, which has published many books by doctors on issues related to chronic illness.

Bryan also has written several books of his own on Lyme-related issues, and his knowledge about a wide variety of treatments for issues related to Lyme disease has gained him a strong online follower base.

For a number of years, Bryan believed that he had his own illness well under control.

However, in 2017, Bryan’s health took a nosedive and he ended up more sick than he ever had been before.

He spent six months basically bedridden with severe M.S.-like neurological symptoms and says that he remembers virtually nothing about that time period.

Bryan said that before his relapse, he felt like he understood the dangers of mold and had ensured that it was not a problem for him.

As it turns out though, a mold problem in his crawl space had sprung up without his knowing about it, causing him to become extremely ill.

His family also experienced some health symptoms, though not nearly as severe as his.

Unfortunately, just moving out of his house, getting rid of his contaminated possessions and pursuing the illness treatments that had previously worked for him were not enough to allow Bryan to return to the level of health that he had enjoyed prior to the exposure.

He therefore ended up going all-out in following Erik Johnson’s approach to mold avoidance.

This approach – detailed in the book A Beginner’s Guide to Mold Avoidance – involves becoming unmasked enough to be aware of one’s own reactions to environmental toxins, so that substances that are particularly harmful can be avoided scrupulously.

It’s now been about 18 months since Bryan, his wife and their three children left their remediated house in South Tahoe. They have spent that time on an extended road trip, becoming very skilled in mold avoidance along the way.

Bryan’s main additional therapy during this time has been ten-pass ozone, which he believes has been extremely valuable to him.

He says that he also recently has been helped by avoiding glyphosate in his diet, treating parasites, using bee venom therapy, and utilizing a few other therapeutic interventions.

At this point, Bryan says that his symptoms all have basically disappeared as long as he is not experiencing problematic environmental exposures and that in general he is feeling healthier than he has for many years.

His reactivities to a variety of toxins – including to some extent the supertoxins that are his biggest problems – have decreased as well.

Bryan’s summarizes his experiences and observations about mold avoidance up to this point in his newest book, called Lyme Disease Supercharge: The Revolutionary Approach To Getting Better When All Else Fails. 

Daniel Cagua-Koo, M.D., comments on the book as follows in the foreword:

Bryan Rosner’s journey is particularly insightful because of his expertise in Lyme and co-infections.

He describes treatments for Lyme and co-infections and heavy metal chelation in the context of mold avoidance.

He masterfully describes the dynamic interaction between mold toxicity and chronic infections and demonstrates the far superior outcomes when he combines mold and avoidance with the various Lyme and co-infections therapies that he has written about in his prior books. 

The most powerful therapeutic treatment for a wide variety of illnesses is removing yourself from toxic mold exposures (both indoors and outdoors) and planting yourself in a good location.

I have personally been made seriously ill by these toxins and have recovered most of my health by doing mold avoidance (again, both indoor and outdoor biological toxins) as well as incorporating supportive therapies.

Basically, locations matter. They matter a lot.

These are the incredible insights we have learned from Erik Johnson, a pioneer in mold avoidance who you will read about in Bryan’s book.


Some Thoughts on the Book

I am really pleased with how Lyme Disease Supercharge has turned out and am now strongly suggesting that those people who are starting out with mold avoidance consider reading it alongside the Beginner’s Guide and Erik on Avoidance.

I think that reading this new book is especially important for them because becoming skilled at mold avoidance is so difficult for people who are very reactive on the front end that they almost invariably end up making a good many very costly mistakes.

Bryan’s book walks the reader step-by-step through the mistakes that he himself has made, detailing the consequences and then describing what he decided to do differently in the future in order to prevent similar problems from happening again.

He does this in a clear enough and explicit enough fashion that reading the book is almost like going through the experience with him – thereby allowing learning to take place without expensive penalties being occurred.

It’s also a very entertaining book to read!

Bryan’s depth of knowledge about pathogens – as well as his broad-ranging approach to figuring out what is going on in this illness and how to address it – also adds considerably to the usefulness of the book.

It’s my increasing belief that while the mold toxins themselves can do a tremendous amount of direct damage to the body, the pathogens that invade the body in the context of the mold poisoning can be even more problematic.

My hope is that Bryan’s focusing on addressing pathogen issues within the context of effective avoidance will lead researchers and physicians to a better understanding of the topic, as well as provide patients with ideas that they can implement on their own.

In reading Lyme Disease Supercharge, I made a list for myself of the important points that I saw being made and thought that it might be helpful to summarize those points in this article.

I also noted that these points seem to correspond reasonably well to the new series of mold avoidance videos that Bryan has been sharing on his You Tube channel, called Lyme Disease Publisher.

I therefore am posting a related video (or in one case a podcast interview) to accompany each point, along with some quotes from the book and some comments of my own.


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1. Doctors have been slow to provide their patients with information about this healing approach. 

Despite the fact that many thousands of people already have benefited from skilled mold avoidance, doctors still virtually never tell their patients that it is an option.

Few doctors treating general chronic illness issues (such as those specializing in functional medicine or ME/CFS or Lyme) actively mention mold to their patients at all, and some continue to minimize the importance of looking into the problem if patients bring it up themselves.

While almost all mold-oriented doctors do stress the importance of not living in a moldy environment, many of them take the position that staying out of buildings with bad ERMI scores and washing contaminated possessions should be plenty of avoidance for anyone.

Unfortunately, while this may be enough for people who do not start out very sick, it is not even close to the level of avoidance that the super-sick people who have reported good results from following Erik Johnson’s approach are doing.

My hope is that in the near future, more doctors will become educated about this approach and then encourage their some of their especially ill patients to consider pursuing it.

From  Lyme Disease Supercharge:

The mold information distributed by modern Lyme disease experts is, in many cases, flat-out wrong, or at least inadequate, and can lead people into a false sense of comfort and make them think that mold isn’t really their issue or that they have already dealt with their mold.

In this book, I am going to introduce you to a new paradigm that is so radical and so non-conventional that it usually takes people being on their deathbeds before they consider it.

That was the case with me. I was literally on my deathbed. I thought I had dealt with mold. It is my hope that you will consider this paradigm before you get as sick as I was.

And remember, I am a full-time Lyme disease researcher and journalist. So if I can miss this information, so can you!


2. Mold avoidance can help with infections.

As described in the book Back From The Edge, Erik Johnson served as a nuclear missile launcher specialist in the U.S. Army during the late 1970’s.

He was told during his training that if a neutron bomb were detonated surreptitiously in a community, people there would get very sick but that doctors would never have a clue that any sort of toxic agent might be responsible.

The reason for this, the Army officers stated, was that the main effect of such a bomb would be to wipe out the immune systems of those who were exposed, thereby making them vulnerable to a wide variety of random infections that are not problems for healthy people.

Doctors, they said, just would keep pointing to each individual infection as if it were causing the health problems all by itself, without ever realizing that a toxic agent had been instrumental in allowing the pathogens to become problematic.

How the Army officers might have figured out that doctors would behave this way in the wake of a neutron bomb strike is an interesting question in itself.

However, based on how doctors have acted with regard to the modern epidemic of chronic mold-related illness, I do think that the Army was right on the money about this.

While environmental microbial toxins do seem to cause some symptoms directly, it seems to me that possibly the worst thing that some of these toxins do is to render the immune system ineffective, thus allowing a wide variety of pathogens to proliferate.

The exact pathogens that become problems tend to vary across people, apparently depending on which bugs they already have in residence or happen to encounter.

So far, at least, the doctors treating the illness have tended to focus their attention just on the particular pathogen involved (such as EBV or Lyme or parasites or whatever else) and to firmly reject the idea that environmental issues may have made people susceptible to the infection.

For instance, last fall a student who was living in a horribly moldy dorm at the University of Maryland died of an adenovirus infection, and her parents mentioned to the media that they thought that the mold might have played a role in the death.

Doctors, however, jumped right in to argue forcefully that the CDC did not recognize a link between adenovirus and mold, and that therefore the death should be regarded as unrelated to the mold exposure.

Things do seem to be starting to change, however.

For instance, just last month Dave Asprey (who previously owned a Lyme testing company and has been insisting for years that Lyme pretty much only becomes a chronic problem when people are being exposed to toxic mold) did an interview on the topic of “It’s Not Lyme, It’s Mold” with mold physician Andrew Heyman, M.D.

Hopefully the connection between mold and other kinds of pathogens will receive more attention soon as well.

From Lyme Disease Supercharge:

When I began following the approach in this book, my ‘Lyme disease’ went from being a huge monster that didn’t want to stay in its cage at all, no matter what I did, to being a tame little wimpy mouse, who would sit down and be quiet if I took just a few drops of a simple herb.

Extreme mold avoidance has been the secret weapon that has made this possible.

The more ozone ten pass I did (and I’ve done a lot of them), the more I realized that ‘Lyme disease and co-infections’ aren’t the primary problems in this chronic illness, but instead, mold is the primary problem.

Lyme disease is just an opportunistic infection which happens to thrive in the presence of mold exposure.

This doesn’t make the damage caused by Lyme disease any less important. Lyme still causes damage and hurts the body.

It is just that Lyme is only there in the first place because of mold exposure.


3. Mold avoidance can be joyful.

Although the news media has yet to cover the topic of skilled mold avoidance to any significant extent, there have been a number of articles over the years on how people with multiple chemical sensitivities go to extremes to avoid environmental chemicals and EMF’s.

Most of these articles focus on how desperately unhappy these folks are, due primarily to their having to live outside of normal society.

I have always found those articles not to reflect my own avoidance experiences at all, however.

Rather, I feel like my life before starting avoidance was a nightmare, and that since starting avoidance it has become much more positive from an emotional point of view.

One thing that I wonder is whether, despite their having gone to a great deal of trouble to get away from human-made chemicals and EMF’s, the MCS patients profiled in those articles might still be carrying around unusually bad microbial toxins without knowing it.

That would be consistent with my own experiences interacting with MCS patients and with the reports that I have gotten from other mold avoiders.

It also would explain why no matter how much avoidance many MCS patients do, they tend to remain pretty unhappy and do not make much progress toward wellness.

On the other hand, individuals who are avoiding mold effectively often report feeling very happy from a reflexive emotional standpoint, as well as grateful that they have recovered from their illness to the point that they can do more things that are meaningful to them.

From Lyme Disease Supercharge:

All the beautiful, toxic places that I no longer visit are no longer appealing places to me.

After being reminded of what health feels like, I have absolutely no desire to go back to those places and function as a half-alive, half-dead creature that slinks around with a fogged brain, body pain, no motivation, no zest for lie.

Currently, the things that I find myself really seeking are not outward characteristics in a city or environment, but instead, inward characteristics in my own body.

Do I wake up refreshed, happy, peaceful, and ready to tackle the day?

Is my mind clear and focused, and my mood light and playful?

Does the outdoor air smell fresh and clean to me, and do I have a skip in my step as I get in my car?

These are the things which matter to me now, and once you too have experienced them, you’ll understand why mold avoidance is a gift, even though it may seem like a burden in the beginning.


4. A body burdened with mold cannot heal no matter how good the medical treatments are.

Prior to realizing that I had a mold problem, I spent ten years working with a quite good integrative doctor and systematically trying everything that I could find to improve my health.

In the short term, some of the things that I tried seemed to be noticeably helpful.

However, over the years, until I moved out of the bad building, the trajectory of my health was inexorably down – until I finally got to the point where I was bedridden and comatose all of the time, with no medical treatments seeming capable of helping me at all.

After I got clear of mold, my body was able to tolerate and benefit from many treatments that had been total failures for me while I was still in exposure.

How far people need to go with regard to avoiding mold depends in large part on where they start out.

The sicker people are when they start avoidance, the more “extreme” their efforts may need to be.

Of course, even basic mold avoidance (not living in a moldy house or among cross-contaminated possessions) may be better than no mold avoidance at all, at least in terms of preventing further health declines from occurring.

But especially for those who start out as very sick, putting effort toward getting really clear (including by attending to locational and decontamination issues) usually makes a big difference in terms of how helpful additional therapies may be.

From Lyme Disease Supercharge:

The ability of the old treatments to start working again is why I titled this book ‘Lyme Disease Supercharge.’

In simple terms, this book doesn’t negate or overrule all the other treatments I’ve written about.

Instead, mold avoidance simply allows those treatments to work better.

Much better. Exponentially better.

So if you simply aren’t getting better no matter what you do, this may be part of your answer.

Your Lyme disease treatments may be just fine, but your level of mold exposure and toxicity may be preventing them from helping you.


5. Locations matter.

In recent years, the idea that locations can affect health in profound ways has gained more scientific credibility.

Discussions on the Mold Avoiders forum and the results of the Paradigm Change Locations Ratings Project provide more specific evidence that although there is some individual variability, certain locations seem to be much more conducive to healing from mold-related illness than are others.

While avoiding problematic locations tends to be particularly important for those who start out very sick, periodically spending time in pristine locations seems to be helpful for everyone (including those people who do not feel that they are sick at all).

Hopefully we can protect the pristine locations that we still have, since once they are ruined, it is very hard to get them back.

From Lyme Disease Supercharge:

I was also one of the many people who didn’t even realize that the outdoor air was just as big of a problem for me as my indoor living space.

Clearly, I was experiencing a heightened sensitivity to mold which ‘normal people’ don’t experience. Thousands of normal people live in the Tahoe area and are perfectly healthy.

Lyme and mold doctors rarely, if ever, acknowledge the importance of outdoor mold toxins, nor do they recognize or even know about some of the finer points of mold avoidance which to me have been nothing short of lifesaving.

To people who are very sick, these details mean everything, and may mean the difference between healing and remaining debilitated.


6. Listening to the subconscious is an important thing to do.

When I was in graduate school, a researcher specializing in artificial intelligence told me that she believed that listening to intuition almost always is a good idea, due to the fact that the subconscious has access to many times more information than does the conscious mind and also appears to be very good at analyzing that information.

Ever since that conversation, I have made a particular effort to invite my intuition to provide me with its opinion about issues of importance.

And I generally have found that if I take that information into consideration when making decisions, I virtually never end up with regrets about what I have done.

This approach has turned out to be especially helpful during my mold avoidance journey, when the actual right things to do would have sounded ludicrous to anyone trying to make decisions just based on logic or “common sense.”

From Lyme Disease Supercharge:

I began daydreaming about the RV lifestyle long before I knew anything about mold.

Looking back, I now know that my body subconsciously, intuitively longed to get away.

FAR away.

Away from not just my house, but from my city, and from civilization. Or, “civilidevastation,” as Erik Johnson calls it.

It turns out that mold toxins are often saturating the air of not just moldy homes, but also many cities and civilized areas. 

I mean, why wasn’t I just daydreaming about exotic hotels in Hawaii or Alaska?

No, I was very specifically obsessed with the idea of being in an RV, far away from manmade structures.

My body knew what I needed before this need bubbled up to a conscious level. 

I believe these intuitive longings and messages from our subconscious minds should not be ignored.

In fact, as I mentioned earlier, people who are mold sick are often ‘masked’ to the mold, meaning they are not aware that they are living in mold.

So, subtle, subconscious messages may indeed be all that you have alerting you to the fact that there is a problem, a BIG problem in your life and health and housing.


7. Knowing that you are being exposed to mold is better than not knowing.

A problem that I have frequently seen among people who are not very skilled at mold avoidance is that they tend to think that reacting to environmental substances is the problem and that the goal is to stop reacting.

However, I always have remembered all too clearly the time when I was living in the moldy house and not reacting to mold at all, and yet was terribly sick.

After finally getting clear of the home and my possessions for only a few days, I started reacting violently to them.

(That was pretty shocking since I had gone on many trips away from the house in the past and not noticed anything like that happening.)

Although the reactions were disturbing, I found that the more that I was able to use those reactions to avoid exposures, the more health I regained.

Therefore, I never felt like the reactions were the problem for me.

Rather, as Erik Johnson has suggested, it seemed to me that the reactions instead were the solution – the golden ticket out of misery into hope and health.

From Lyme Disease Supercharge:

When constantly exposed to mold, the immune system basically gives up and no longer tells you there’s any danger.

This is referred to as being ‘masked.’

While being masked may seem more pleasant than being unmasked (because being unmasked means experiencing more nasty reactions to mold), being masked causes you not to avoid the molds that are hurting you, hence perpetuating immune suppression and multi-organ dysfunction within the body.

Think of being masked as having a tasteless poison put in your food every morning: it has no taste so you don’t know it is harming you.

And being unmasked is like all of a sudden being able to taste that poison.

Wouldn’t you prefer to be able to taste the poison, so you can spit it out?


8. Sometimes, at least, less can be more.

When people start off very sick, very often the best thing that they can do is to get to a pristine location and then work to allow their body to shed some of its toxic burden.

The reason for this seems to be that the body is capable of sequestering really enormous amounts of toxins before it begins to totally shut down.

If people get to the point where they are disabled, this may mean that their systems are so overloaded  with toxins that until they remove some of that burden, nothing else that they do is going to make much difference.

Getting clear enough for effective detox to be able to occur can be a big challenge for patients who are this sick.

But for those patients – like Bryan – who do get clear enough, spending a considerable length of time helping the body to remove the toxic load without trying to simultaneously accomplish other goals may be especially helpful.

From Lyme Disease Supercharge:

Most people with chronic disease are continuously adding things into their protocols. Adding supplements, antibiotics, vitamins and minerals, herbs, essential oils, rife treatments, hormones, and the list goes on and on.

That particular treatment approach hadn’t seemed to work for me. And I gradually discovered that what my body really needed was instead to take toxins away, not add more treatments.

Later on in the healing process, my body would continue to become unmasked to many other toxins, including glyphosate, which experienced mold avoiders now believe has a detrimental effect on the body’s healthy biome.

I mean, I can actually now FEEL when I am exposed to glyphosate – it is not a philosophical disagreement with use of the chemical in our food supply. It is an actual reaction that tells me to stay away from it.

The more I healed, the more I realized that my body wasn’t missing important treatments, but instead, was being exposed to too many toxins.

A paradigm change, indeed, compared to the days when all I wanted to do was to try new treatments.


9. Talking about conventional Lyme treatments is easier than talking about mold avoidance.

Ten years ago, when I started talking publicly about how moldy buildings and problematic locations could have a negative impact on the health of patients with ME/CFS, a lot of people got really angry at me.

Erik Johnson received an even more negative response when he began talking about the topic in ME/CFS groups twenty years ago.

I do understand. The idea that not only your house but your whole town can be poisoning to you is very upsetting and discouraging, and so shooting the messenger may seem a reasonable thing to do.

Although very recently many people have started to acknowledge that particularly moldy buildings and even certain locations can be bad for people, some of the concepts of this mold avoidance approach (such as the idea that even very small exposures can be very harmful for some people and that current lab testing is not sufficient to identify those problems) still can prompt skepticism.

Bryan reports that this book has been considerably more difficult to promote than his previous ones, with some influential people who previously have been very supportive of his work declining to share any information about this book at all.

I think that this problem is going to change in a major way within the next couple of years. We do seem to be right on the cusp.

For the time being though, taking on the mission of sharing this information still sometimes can feel a bit like banging one’s head against the wall, unfortunately.

From Lyme Disease Supercharge:

Many people will be mad at me for writing this book, even if they don’t realize they are mad.

They will feel like I’ve challenged them to do something very difficult and even miserable: leaving one’s house and belongings and restricting life by pursuing extreme mold avoidance.

But remember, I didn’t write the rules. I’m just the messenger. I can no more change the truth of what is inside this book than I can stop the sun from rising.

It is simply a fact that many people with horrible illnesses experience profound improvement when they pursue the kind of mold avoidance discussed in this book, even after all other treatments fail.

This fact may not be one that you like, but nevertheless, facts are facts.


10. For people who are very ill, spending time in a really clear location has categorically different effects than just being “out of mold.”

In 2007, I moved out of my moldy house, put aside all of my possessions, and tried following Erik Johnson’s other instructions with regard to avoiding even small amounts of problematic toxins as best I could while still living in the Chicagoland area.

I did make a significant amount of health progress during that time. But it was only after I later got really clear in pristine locations in the western half of the U.S. (spending six months tent camping and then another several years living mostly in an RV) that I started to feel anywhere close to being really well and that my reactivity to problematic toxins started to decline.

What many other people and I have found is that as long as a very toxic body is not in a truly clean environment (including being away from outdoor problems), it simply will not let go of sequestered toxins – and therefore, little recovery progress will occur.

Certainly, it was a big challenge and a big commitment for a city girl like me to get my life set up to be able to spend extended amounts of time out in the wilderness in order to get the detox spigot turned on.

It did make all the difference in the world, though.

From Lyme Disease Supercharge:

People who try to detox using the standard mold treatments often find themselves getting even sicker, if they aren’t in a very clean location.

By ‘location,’ I mean the air you breathe, the shelter you live in, the clothes on your back, your bedding, and the level of mold on your skin.

In addition to shunting detox, being in a bad environment with even low levels of ambient mold also causes the body to lower oxygen flow to the tissues, which in and of itself is responsible for many of the symptoms of chronic illness.

The lowered-oxygen state also encourages the growth and proliferation of all sorts of anaerobic chronic infections we talk about, including Lyme, co-infections, parasites, and viruses.

So there is a very high price to be paid for not being clear of mold toxins.

Thankfully, as recovery progresses, a person may be able to detox effectively in less and less ‘pristine’ locations.

But early on in the mold avoidance process, it is often necessary to kick-start the process by getting super-clear of mold toxins.


11. Skilled mold avoidance involves becoming able to recognize and avoid “master toxins” scrupulously, while being less vigilant about other types of toxicity.

If there is one concept that those pursuing mold avoidance often have the most difficulty  putting into practice, it may be the idea that just asking the question “Am I reacting to this?” is not necessarily the optimal way to pursue avoidance.

Rather, skilled avoidance involves attempting to predict how problematic a particular exposure is going to turn out to be, based on figuring out the answers to two different questions:

1 – “What are my warning symptoms when being exposed to this kind of toxin?”

2 – “If I allow myself to be exposed to this kind of toxin, what kinds of longer-term effects is it going to have on my health?”

Some kinds of toxicity (such as pollution and minor microbial toxins) may have effects that are fairly obvious in the short term but that dissipate rapidly once people get out of exposure.

Other types of toxicity – especially the sewer-associated substance commonly referred to as Mystery Toxin – may have really profound and lasting effects on the system even in very small amounts, but provide only very subtle initial warning symptoms.

A skilled mold avoider learns to understand what kinds of toxins are being encountered based on the warning symptoms, as well as how to use different avoidance strategies for dealing with different toxins.

Erik Johnson, for instance, describes on occasion literally running to his truck camper to take a shower after being exposed to some toxins but being much more cavalier about others.

This type of skill does take some effort to learn, but results in much more flexibility as well as much stronger health gains once it is acquired.

From Lyme Disease Supercharge:

These tainted features of civilization are not in and of themselves what cause mold sick people to be harmed.

Instead, these features have the potential to damage the natural biome and cause the local molds to produce harmful mold toxins.

This is a very important distinction. 

I would later notice that such things as pollution and car exhaust had very little negative impact on me, unless mold was also present in a location.

This distinction is critical and where many people go wrong.

Many people try to avoid ALL toxins, as if they are all created equal. 

A very well-respected and brilliant mercury poisoning expert once told me that mercury was the master toxin, and the extent to which someone was mercury poisoned determined the level of reactivity they would have to other toxins.

Yet, my experience was just the opposite. My mercury issues were easily and swiftly brought under control when mold toxicity was addressed.


12. Healing locations are very often not the same as glamorous locations.

From 2009 to 2012, I visited many hundreds of different locations in 25 states. During that time, I put more than 100,000 miles on my SUV (most of them towing my 17-foot Casita travel trailer).

While many of the locations that I visited were very beautiful resort areas, I rarely spent much time in those places.

Rather, most of the places where I was inclined to linger during the early part of my journey were very isolated areas that I never would have been interested in even visiting prior to starting mold avoidance (and where acquiring organic groceries required driving at least an hour or two each way).

As I moved toward recovery and became less reactive, fancier locations like Palm Springs and Telluride became more accessible to me for longer periods of time.

When I was first starting out though, I was just grateful to find any pristine places at all and didn’t mind if they were not very glamorous.

From Lyme Disease Supercharge:

It turns out that many new mold avoiders have a hard time getting to good air.


Because all of our lives, we are taught that we should go to beautiful, popular areas for vacations.

Big cities also have stores, activities, amenities, and attractions.

Getting to clean air often requires going way off of the beaten path, to places where normal people don’t want to go. 

Another thing I was learning was that how a place looks isn’t a predictor of how good the air is.

A beautiful outdoorsy setting may have bad air. And some larger cities have good air.

It is very hard to predict.

This is why it is so important to become unmasked, so that you can feel for yourself where the air is good, and which buildings are safe.

I rarely, if ever, hear about people making good recoveries when they are solely relying on laboratory testing rather than their own senses.


13. For people who are very sick, mold avoidance can be transformational.

People who start out as only moderately sick with mold-related illness often do fine with what we might call “reasonable” avoidance, such as not living in a building with a bad ERMI score and not being in close proximity to possessions that have been contaminated with mold spores and fragments from a bad building.

Unfortunately, though, those who start off as severely sick (e.g. housebound/bedridden for a significant length of time) very often make very slow progress or no progress at all regardless of what else they do, unless they go beyond that kind of “reasonable” avoidance.

For these individuals, becoming skilled at mold avoidance can provide a whole new lease on a life that they feared was totally over for them.

Certainly, there are drawbacks and challenges involved, but the benefits very often may nonetheless make the pursuit of this approach seem to be worthwhile.

One reason, I think, that most mold doctors do not actively promote this kind of healing approach is because they have never been super-sick themselves with this kind of illness and therefore have not experienced its benefits first-hand.

For the sake of their patients, though, they may do well to consider it.

From Lyme Disease Supercharge:

After many people read this, they will be asking the same question. How on Earth is that a good life? Sleeping out in the woods in a metal cargo trailer? 

Most of the people who are motivated to live like this are people who basically had death sentences before they discovered mold avoidance.

People with such severe chronic fatigue syndrome, Lyme, and related illness, that they had to crawl to the bathroom.

People with such severe dementia and psychological symptoms that they were being diagnosed with Alzheimer’s disease and committed to institutions.

People with such severe gut dysfunction that they could not eat or keep food down.

For these people, mold avoidance is difficult, but it is a new lease on life.

Another massive benefit of mold avoidance is that it puts the power of healing back in the hands of the individual.

Instead of blank stares from health care practitioners who can’t help, we get to enjoy healing our own bodies independently.

This benefit is so profound that I am still grateful for it each and every day.


14. Traveling around in an RV is a great way to become skilled at mold avoidance.

Those who are not very knowledgeable about mold avoidance often assume that many people pursuing it are living in RV’s because they cannot tolerate any buildings.

That is often not really true. Rather, while buildings that are clean enough for very sensitized people may be a challenge to find, good-enough RV’s are a challenge to obtain as well.

As Erik Johnson explained many years ago, the main  purpose of what he calls a “mobile environmental containment unit” (or “MECU”) is as a learning tool – that is, to allow people to gauge the effects that different locations have on them by keeping the “shelter” variable the same in each one.

This allows those pursuing avoidance to conduct what my grad school professor Thomas D. Cook referred to as a “quasi-experimental design” – where, through repeated trials, conclusions about cause and effect can be made despite the fact that random assignment into groups has not taken place.

Individuals who start out as extremely sick and then pursue mold avoidance actually cannot help but do this kind of quasi-experiment over and over again, as they make an effort to avoid exposures that are damaging to their health.

Once these people do this same sort of quasi-experiment hundreds or thousands of times, they virtually always conclude that locations do not just matter.

They matter a lot!

From Lyme Disease Supercharge:

Traveling in the RV gave us the unique and infinitely valuable perspective of being able to have certainty that changes in how we felt were not based on our indoor environment, but instead, on the outdoor environment.

This is something that isn’t possible when you are traveling and staying in hotels.

The differences between locations were profound.

Keeping the same sleeping accommodations from location to location allows you to sense differences in the outdoor environment, differences which would be drowned out by background noises if you were staying in hotels or Air B & B’s.

Moving around from one hotel to another introduces all the new variables of each hotel: Is the hotel moldy? Is it a strain of mold that is worse than the last hotel you stayed in? Were the walls of the hotel recently painted? Is the person in the room next to you smoking? Did the last people who slept in your room sneak in a cat which you are allergic to?

The list goes on.

By moving around in our RV, it allowed us to confirm that these strange and almost unbelievable shifts were in fact caused by the outdoor environment, and not something else.


15. Ozone and mold avoidance can be a good combination.

Several years ago, quite a few individuals pursuing mold avoidance started reporting phenomena that made it seem that they had been infected with unusually virulent microbes and then were cross-contaminating their own environments with particularly problematic toxins.

Although I was a little skeptical about this concept at first, the stories were so consistent and persuasive that I started thinking that there might be something to the theory after all.

More recently, reports in the news media about C. auris suggest that fungi indeed can behave precisely in the way that the “hell toxin” was described by sufferers as behaving – that is, colonizing individuals who then spread it to their environments so that entire rooms or buildings become unremediable.

Whether C. auris is actually affecting some of those individuals with mold-related illness has yet to be determined (and we need some help with that, please).

However, the idea that individuals who have become sick from moldy buildings are hosting large numbers of assorted illness-causing pathogens and that drugs do not seem to be the solution does seem to be pretty clear at this point.

As a result of my concerns about the reports that I was hearing from people, I started exploring the concept of ozone therapy on my own and then wrote an article on the topic of the home use of ozone in 2015.

Like me, Bryan says that he has found the home use of ozone to be mildly helpful to him.

On the other hand, Bryan says that a particular form of IV ozone called “ten pass” (administered by a medical doctor) has been a key therapy in his recent recovery and that the results that he has achieved from that have been very dramatic.

Bryan’s belief is that the ozone has been helpful to him in a few different ways, including by breaking down biofilms protecting infections as well as by killing Bartonella and other infections directly.

I have heard of a few other prominent individuals discussing ten-pass ozone during the past year or so as well.

For instance, Dr. Mark Hyman of the Cleveland Clinic said that ten-pass ozone therapy was critical in allowing him to recover from a severe gastrointestinal infection (acquired after he was exposed to a hidden toxic mold infestation) that kept him bedridden for several months last year and that did not respond to other medical treatments.

Mold avoider Dave Asprey has been an especially enthusiastic proponent of ten-pass ozone and recently discussed it in detail in an interview with Dr. Frank Shallenberger.

While Bryan’s practitioner currently has a rate of $500 for one ten-pass ozone treatment, the procedure when done elsewhere often costs $1,000 or more.

Unfortunately, I have yet to hear of insurance paying for this kind of treatment.

Bryan has received 25 ten-pass treatments over the past 18 months. In his case, he said the expense has been worth it because he was extremely sick and because the improvements have been so dramatic.

However, the high cost of the treatment (especially at $1,000 per session) would put that kind of repeated therapy totally out of reach for many patients regardless of how helpful it might be.

It also is important to note that like most other pathogen-killing treatments (and also most detox treatments), ozone therapy generally appears to be totally unhelpful or even very counterproductive for many severely ill individuals who are still being exposed to problematic mold toxins (including cross-contamination).

In addition, ozone is a very controversial treatment, to the point that I had some qualms about writing about it at all.

Still, the recent emergence of various kinds of super-bad drug-resistant infections is so terrifying that I think that we need to be considering alternative ways of attempting to deal with them.

I therefore would like to see some research into whether and when ozone therapy of all kinds can be helpful for those infections.

Maybe eventually, if the C. auris problem becomes as problematic as it is seeming that it is going to be, and if ozone turns out to be helpful for dealing with it, then insurance will start paying for ozone therapy and more people with chronic illness will have access to it.

I do not think that $25,000 is that much money for insurance to have to pay in order for people with this sort of severe illness to be able to regain productive lives, and so maybe it eventually will happen.

From Lyme Disease Supercharge:

Ozone ten-pass appears to be one of the only therapies which addresses all three of these problems (mold, biofilm and Bartonella) with swift effectiveness.

This shouldn’t be at all surprising, since ozone is a strong oxidizer and is known for its ability to just bulldoze through any and all impurities in the body.

Other, less aggressive methods of ozone application can of course help as well, but ten-pass really was the only one that provided the kind of progress that really led to healing, in my case.

Uber-extreme mold avoidance may do the same thing, but it is almost impossible to accomplish, and ozone 10 pass seems to ‘cover all sins’ by allowing a ‘reset’ button on mold in the body.

Even if mold avoidance alone could accomplish it, it would most certainly take a lot longer. Like hundreds of times longer.

The ozone did not replace my need to do mold avoidance. It just helped me get better faster.


16. Mold avoidance can bring parasite infections to the forefront.

In early 2012 (four years after starting mold avoidance), subsequent to doing a 5-day supervised water fast while simultaneously taking some parasite herbs, I became convinced based on what I was expelling that I had a tapeworm infection in my gut.

Virtually no one in the chronic illness community was talking about parasites at the time, and the very few fringe doctors who had mentioned them made it seem as if they should be easy to treat.

I therefore persuaded my doctor to prescribe a standard one-day course of praziquantel (also called Biltricide), which I hoped would take care of the problem.

This turned out to be one of the biggest mistakes that I made during my entire illness journey (that is, almost as catastrophic as not realizing for 10+ years that I was living in a horribly moldy house).

The drug obviously killed something really major in my intestines (and I observed worm pieces and bright yellow color similar to that of certain fish tapeworm infections in my stool for several days after taking it), but it also obviously released a tremendous amount of heavy metals into my system.

Oddly, this also converted my existing illness into something substantially different but nonetheless still fairly debilitating, looking less like CIRS and more like Crohn’s disease.

While my mold reactivity declined considerably and I no longer qualified for an ME/CFS diagnosis even when exposed, my gut issues became severe and the heavy metals toxicity that I periodically stirred up when trying to work on my gut issues came very close to killing me on a few different occasions.

Intestinal worms, as I found out on my own through research, have been shown in the literature to sequester enormous amounts of heavy metals.

This does succeed in protecting the body to at least some extent from being harmed by the metals, it seems.

However, the worms themselves may have many negative effects, including causing immune system shifts that, I believe, may be at least in part causal of the ME/CFS/CIRS sufferer’s typical inability to keep pathogens in check as well as a tendency to experience hair-trigger reactions to mold toxicity.

Eventually I will write about my experience with the parasites (and my recovery journey in general) in more detail.

For the time being, I think it’s really important that people not think that following my own example is a good idea!

If I could do it over again, probably I would try addressing worms from the very start of my mold avoidance journey, but more gently, using – say – small amounts of mimosa pudica seed and other standard parasite herbs, along with binders or chelators (as well as other detox treatments such as sweating) to remove the metals and other toxicity being released.

I do think that parasite drugs can be helpful too, but that for people who start out very sick it is likely appropriate to use them only when further along in the healing process, after the metals issues are more under control.

A curious thing about my experience, however, was how unusual it seems to have been.

While many people with chronic illness – including Yolanda Hadid – do report getting very sick from taking parasite drugs, often they have to take praziquantel or other drugs daily for months before expelling anything.

What I think may have happened with me is that I was so clear of environmental toxicity for such a long period of time that the biofilms protecting that parasite were broken down to some extent, thereby allowing it to be immediately addressed by the drug.

All of this is, unfortunately, still very uncharted territory.

While I am glad that a few more doctors (including chiropractor Dr. Jay Davidson and his colleagues) now are focused on the topic of parasites, it seems that we still have a long way to go before our understanding of it is all pieced together.

From Lyme Disease Supercharge:

We all remember Donald Trump’s campaign slogan ‘Drain the swamp.’

The imagery this creates in our minds is a deep, yucky swamp full of unsavory and yucky creatures.

The creatures are protected by the murky swamp waters.

By draining the swamp’s dirty waters, we may not be directly targeting the dark creatures looming beneath the surface, but we will be exposing them, removing their protection, and weakening them. 

I think mold accumulates inside our bodies and acts as a protective coating for yucky infections and parasites.

Mold envelopes the infections and prevents other treatment from working, and shields the infections from the immune system.

By doing mold avoidance and pursuing active mold detox, we are ‘draining the swamp.’

We are revealing and weakening the creatures beneath the surface.


17. Pursuing mold avoidance in the context of societal norms can be a challenge.

Becoming skilled enough to really succeed at mold avoidance takes a tremendous amount of intelligence, determination and self-confidence.

It is not surprising, therefore, that a high percentage of people who have done the best with this approach were highly successful in their careers before getting sick, with the kinds of backgrounds that would allow them to easily gain others’ respect in pretty much any normal situation.

Unfortunately, however, pre-conceived societal notions about what “homeless” people and “chronically ill” people are like often adds an unnecessarily high level of stress to mold avoiders’ endeavors.

Very frequently, a wide variety of individuals (police, child protective services agents, park rangers, hotel clerks, landlords, zoning boards and many others) may interfere in ways that make it much more difficult for mold avoiders to do even basic things (such as sleeping in an RV or tent in their own backyard) that may be necessary for them to survive in the short-term and move forward with the healing process.

One thing that I think that we may be able to do with regard to this is to cite the need for ADA accommodations to allow people to live as successfully as they can within the scope of their disabling environmental sensitivities.

Of course, it would help if these environmental sensitivities were universally accepted as a legitimate physiological disability (rather than viewed as some kind of psychological malfunction), and I do think that we are getting to the point where this is closer to happening.

Virtually all colleges now seem to grant students’ ADA accommodation requests with regard to not being able to attend classes or live in buildings that create problems for them as long as reasonable options are being proposed, for instance.

So things do seem to have gotten better with regard to some societal problems than when I started pursuing mold avoidance more than eleven years ago.

We still have a long way to go though.

From Lyme Disease Supercharge:

The world is set up in such a way that conventional housing is really the only acceptable, affordable choice.

Living in alternative housing such as a vehicle, tiny home, shed or other alternative structure is illegal in most areas.

Some mold avoiders, such as myself, who can’t live in conventional housing have at times felt demoralized, marginalized, discriminated against and often hopeless.

We are the only population of homeless people who are homeless despite being able to afford to rent or buy a home.

And to top it all off, we are in desperate need of many therapies to support ourselves as  our bodies go through rapid changes, healing, and detox from mold illness.

It is very hard to focus on treatments when you might find yourself living illegally in a friend’s backyard, or running out of time on a 14-day stay limit at your campground.

And while we are sick and juggling these burdensome tasks, we are somehow also supposed to have the wherewithal of keeping our lives organized by selling homes, terminating leases, disposing of our belongings, trading in moldy vehicles, filling out address change forms, and tackling dozens of other administrative tasks which arise when moving.

All the while from an RV, without a desk or even a printer, and often without power and heat!

Of course, I don’t want to paint this as such a gloomy picture.

I did all of the above with a smile on my face, because for the first time in decades, I actually had the energy and executive functioning skills to tackle it all effortlessly.

But we still need to talk about it, and acknowledge that it can be a challenge.


18. Brain retraining is not an effective substitute for the difficulties of pursuing mold avoidance.

During the past year or so, certain individuals selling so-called “brain retraining” programs have started suggesting to doctors and to others that it is a bad idea for patients to use their own reactions to determine when they are being exposed to problematic mold toxins and then to use that information to make mold avoidance decisions.

According to these individuals, the reactions that people have to small mold exposures are solely a result of the limbic system misidentifying harmless stimuli as major threats, rather than its correctly identifying dangerous substances and sounding a useful warning about them.

What people should do instead of pursuing mold avoidance, these individuals claim, is to hire a mold inspector or make other reasonable efforts to ensure that they are not living in a bad building that would be harmful to anyone and then actively insist to the limbic system that it should just plain shut up with regard to making any additional complaints about mold issues.

The theory being proposed is that the limbic system is reacting so strongly because it has been damaged and/or traumatized by previous toxic exposures, and therefore needs to be dealt with firmly to get it to stop “overreacting.”

Any negative effects that mold avoiders ascribe to small mold exposures are stated by these “brain retrainers” as being due to the the limbic system reactions causing “stress” throughout the system, rather than to any actual toxic damage.

Ill people pursuing these brain retraining programs are instructed to put any doubts they might have about the theory and the program wholly aside, and then to spend large amounts of time each day watching DVD’s that discuss the program philosophy and provide exercises designed to stop limbic system reactions from occurring.

For those who can afford the high costs, in-person seminars are also offered.

Based on my interactions with them, those undergoing these kinds of “retraining” programs appear to be coached to counter all objections by stating that the other person does not understand the concepts involved in brain retraining and that neural plasticity has been proven by science to be an actual phenomenon.

That line of argument seems particularly peculiar when these individuals insist upon it over and over to me since I have a Ph.D. in psychology and quite a bit of prior knowledge about neural plasticity research, and since the “brain retraining” rhetoric seems to have only a glancing relationship to the actual scientific theories and studies that have been published on neural plasticity issues.

(While my doctorate degree was granted by a business school, my area of study was psychology and my dissertation adviser was an extremely well-regarded social psychologist. Insofar as such things matter, the individuals who created and are selling these supposed “brain retraining” programs have no stated background or training in psychology at all, on the other hand.)

The biggest problem that I have with the theories that the “brain retrainers” are proposing is that they insist that if a substance is not harmful to healthy people, it is not going to be harmful to sick people either unless the limbic system is inappropriately reacting to it.

This seems to me to be patently untrue, since people with mold-related illness may have had various protective systems of their body damaged by the mold and therefore be more vulnerable to being injured by new toxic exposures.

For instance, they may have had their blood-brain barrier compromised (meaning that harmful substances can get into the brain and kill the exquisitely sensitive neurons); their microbiome may have been compromised (making it less likely that toxins will be effectively neutralized by it); their methylation system or other detoxification systems may be working ineffectively; their liver or kidneys may be damaged; their liver flow may have been impeded due to low oxygen levels in the system; worms or other microbes may have shifted their immune system functioning (e.g. from a Th1 to a Th2 response); they may be experiencing mast cell reactivity issues; or many other problems may be occurring.

In addition, it is possible that exposure to certain microbial toxins may be acting as a signal – such as through quorum sensing – to colonizing fungal or bacterial infections that they should become more aggressive, thus serving as an impetus for those microbial infections to become more harmful to their hosts’ bodies.

If any of these things are true, then the assertive limbic system response may be a functional warning allowing patients to stay away from toxins that actually are harmful to them, rather than a mistake that should be ignored and silenced.

Thus far, a few individuals following the mold avoidance approach discussed in the Beginner’s Guide have, after a year or more of reporting significant gains from focused avoidance, stated that they have benefited from then trying brain retraining programs.

From what I have seen, most of these reported improvements have been with regard to their experiencing decreased reactivities to such things as chemicals or freshly cut grass or fabrics or down pillows or common ubiquitous mold – with reactivities to the particularly problematic mold toxins (often referred to as “supertoxins”) of interest to me remaining a problem for them.

Again from what I have seen, these mold avoiders tend to blatantly disobey the instructions given in the programs by continuing to scrupulously avoid the toxins that are particularly problematic for them, while simultaneously paying less attention to reactions to substances that are causing less severe problems for them.

This is, of course, the exact same strategy that I suggest with regard to focusing on “master toxins” in #11 above, and so I am supportive of their doing this.

On the other hand, some individuals who have reported benefiting from mold avoidance – including Jennifer Brea (director of the film “Unrest”) and Ana Harris (author of the popular blog “Ana Harris Writes”) – have stated that they have been harmed by brain retraining programs.

So “brain retraining” is definitely not an endeavor to be pursued lightly, with the belief that “It can’t hurt,” in my opinion.

Overall, I am not saying here that these programs have never been useful for anyone with this sort of illness.

It does seem that some people find that the programs can help them to direct their attention away from getting too worked up about exposures to minor irritants, and also that some people benefit from the social support that the community offers them.

I do think that taking the position that brain retraining is the answer and that those who are pursuing skilled mold avoidance are doing something “wrong” is unwarranted and has the potential of being detrimental to patients, however.

From Lyme Disease Supercharge:

The question we are really asking here is: Are the toxins someone is being exposed to just causing an over-reaction or allergy, like pine pollen does?

Because we can safely treat a pine pollen allergy with antihistamines even if the person has ongoing exposure to pollen. We know that the pollen itself isn’t dangerous.

However, on the other hand, let’s take someone who is being poisoned at work with dangerous industrial chemicals. Or someone who accidentally ingests arsenic or rat poison.

This is a very different situation than the person with a pine pollen allergy, right?

The treatment for this person is to remove the chemicals, or poison, not lessen the symptoms of the poison exposure and teach the brain to relax.

The most dangerous type of mold reactivity, and the one which brain retraining hasn’t helped me with, is related to the chronic infections that most mold illness patients are known to have.

Simply stated, I feel like mold exposures are somehow actually directly helping the infections in my body to regroup, survive, and remain inside my body despite treatment.

There seem to be a number of different ways in which mold is able to do this, including immune suppression and possibly even providing raw building blocks for the infections to use in creating its biofilm.

I also have heard several other sources propose the possibility that infections, especially Bartonella, can use mold molecules to build biofilm. 

And so this type of interaction between mold and the infections seems to be more or less independent from anything the brain can do to help the situation. 

Also, many types of mycotoxins have been studied and are capable of inflicting direct, severe damage to human cells and tissues, even without infections present. 

So these kinds of mold reactivity are the first type I am going to talk about.

This is the “rat poison,” not the “pollen allergy.”


19. Mold is weird.

A lot of the reason why science has been so slow to be able to help those with severe mold-related illness is, I think, because of the lack of understanding that pretty much across the board, mold does not behave the way that people think that it should.

For instance, almost everyone is operating under the belief that if mold exposures are reduced by 90%, that means that the symptoms of those being affected by the mold should improve to a noticeable extent.

At least with severe patients, that is not how it usually works, though.

Rather, in many cases individuals need to get down to only a tiny fraction (such as 0.0001%) of the original exposure before they see any improvements at all.

Similarly, most people assume that if the goal is to determine whether a mold problem exists in a building, the way to find out is to turn to laboratory testing.

Unfortunately, though, the lab testing that we currently have available is woefully inadequate for our purposes.

For instance, even the most well-regarded test by mold doctors, the ERMI, measures only a fraction of the mold species that may be present; does not distinguish between strains of the species; measures only the proteins in the mold spores rather than the toxins being made by the mold; and does not pay any attention to other types of microbes (such as yeast or bacteria) that also may be present and causing harm.

Interactions between microbes and environmental chemicals also are entirely left out of the testing results.

Perhaps most importantly, it seems that microbes today are mutating extraordinarily quickly, in order to take advantage of the changed environment that humans – with all their chemicals and bad building practices and general environmental irresponsibility – have created.

So all of our currently available tests always are going to be behind the eight-ball in terms of keeping up.

It therefore seems that what we really need if we are going to deal with this problem effectively is more open-minded creative thinking and personal observation, similar to that which Erik Johnson has been sharing for many years and Bryan has put forth in this book.

Of course, hard science is also needed in order to confirm what has been observed and to firm up the details.

So far, though, hard science seems totally bewildered about how to approach the topic of how modern mold is behaving (as well as woefully underfunded with regard to it), and therefore has been making hardly any useful progress at all in understanding what is going on.

Hopefully that will start to change soon though.

From Lyme Disease Supercharge:

When we get environmental mold hits, such as watching a movie in a moldy theatre, how are these hits hurting us? Is the mold that contaminates our skin somehow entering the body and joining forces with the blob already inside of us? Is the blob living or dead? Does that question even apply to mold in the same way that it applies to other life? Is the mold inside us communicating with the mold outside of us, in the environment?

Science doesn’t fully understand mold. Mold is weird. How much makes us ill and how to recover from mold is also not fully understood.

In extreme mold avoidance, if you think of mold as not being weird, then you are missing the path.

Because mold is weird, mold avoidance and detox is weird. It is different from many of the normal therapies Lyme sufferers are used to.

Think of mold as a sticky, mysterious, pulsating, magnetic blob.

I’m not claiming this is the scientific definition of mold. But while scientists take the next few decades to figure it out, this is the loose framework that is helpful in understanding mold and mold avoidance. 

I’m not a leading scientist in mold study. But what I’ve learned is that I don’t have to be.

Understanding that mold is weird, and learning from the experience and wisdom of those who have done this before, is what matters.

Accepting the weirdness and allowing yourself to learn a new paradigm of healing and detox will give you the flexibility you need to succeed in mold avoidance.


Bryan periodically slept in the back of his pickup truck when on the road to get more clear.

Mold Avoidance Resources from Bryan Rosner

Following is a list of website resources from Bryan Rosner providing information about mold avoidance topics.

Lyme Disease Supercharge (Amazon)

Extreme Mold Avoidance Information

Lyme Disease Publisher You Tube Channel

Bryan Rosner’s Anti-Lyme Journal

More Books From Bryan Rosner


Mold Avoidance Articles by Bryan Rosner

Following are some articles on mold avoidance written by Bryan Rosner.

Lyme Disease Supercharge – March 2019

Dreaming of a Place to Call Home – February 20, 2018

Mold and Parasites – May 4, 2018

Extreme Mold Avoidance – February 3, 2018


Additional Podcasts & Videos From Bryan Rosner

Following are some podcasts and videos that were released by Bryan Rosner later than the ones linked earlier in this article.

Mold Sabbatical – April 26, 2019

Pristine Locations – April 25, 2019

The Big Mama Bear of Health Clues – April 24, 2019

The Rules of Recovery from Mold Illness – April 22, 2019


About Mold Avoiders

Lisa Petrison is the executive director of Paradigm Change. Formerly, she worked as a marketing and research consultant to a number of large companies, as a business school professor, and as a journalist. Her Ph.D. is in psychology and marketing from the Kellogg School of Management at Northwestern University.

Mold Avoiders is a spin-off from Paradigm Change and provides information on recovering from mold-related illness via Erik Johnson’s approach to mold avoidance. The Mold Avoiders Facebook group now has more than 12,000 members.

The popular book A Beginner’s Guide to Mold Avoidance is available for free in PDF format to those signing up for occasional email newsletters from Mold Avoiders. In addition, paperback and Kindle versions are available from Amazon.

The book Erik on Avoidance includes a large number of quotes from Erik Johnson summarizing his mold avoidance experiences and conclusions. It is available for free as a PDF download and also as an Amazon Kindle book.

Erik’s recovery story is summarized in the book Back from the Edge: How One Man’s Discovery Brought Him From Desperately Sick With Chronic Fatigue Syndrome To the Top of Mt. Whitney in Six Months. It is available for free in PDF format for those signing up for occasional updates from Paradigm Change, as well as for a small fee in Kindle format from Amazon.

Following are a few Paradigm Change articles relevant to topics discussed on this page:

Outdoor Toxins of Particular Relevance To Mold Illness Patients

The Paradigm Change Locations Ratings Project

The Paradigm Change Visitor Project – 2013-2018

The Living Clean Guide to Less Toxic Camping Gear – Vehicles

Mold Hypersensitivity: Guidelines To Help Sufferers Stay Safe

The Mold Avoider’s Dilemma: What Should I Do About My Stuff?

What I’ve Learned (So Far) About Getting Set Up For Ozone Therapy

Mold Avoidance Resources

The Locations Effect


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