Cross-Contamination – Approach #3

Following are some links to articles that seem consistent with Approach #3, which focuses on the removal of even small amounts of spores and spore fragments.


1) Ritchie Shoemaker – Surviving Mold

 Frequently Asked Mold Questions


2) Suzanne Somers – Tox-Sick

Interview with Ritchie Shoemaker


A discussion from the book:

Suzanne Somers:

So…your first step is removing all the mold from the environment you are living with? How drastic is that? Do you have to throw out all your furniture and your clothes and everything to be effective?

Ritchie Shoemaker:

You know, I use the term “hair pulling” to describe what people have to go through. We can say that nonporous items like wood and glass and plastic and metal can be cleaned and they can. But unfortunately, porous items are the bulk of what we have, and you start saying, my goodness, I’ve got to throw out my books and my carpets? Yes, you do. And then they ask how about my photos? Well, those can be reprinted or copied. How about the nice fabric frame with the photo from my tenth anniversary? Well, that frame is trash. And you say, Grandma’s sofa? Okay, take off the upholstered material, and take out the filling, and you’ve got the frame you can clean.

As far as clothes go, they can be washed. But the truth of the matter is, the fabrics that people wear can be cleaned and those are not the same fabrics that you put on your sofas and your floors.

Suzanne Somers:

So if you are diagnosed with mold, if you want to get we well, you must adhere to step one: get rid of anything that could be harboring the spores.

Ritchie Shoemaker:

There is difficulty in giving you a simple yes, which is what I’m tempted to do, but HLA has six variants that increase susceptibility, and two of those are way worse than the others. So those two are the worst ones, and the level of cleaning that you are going to need to do with those is more intensive.

It’s stunning to see that what is good for one guy who doesn’t get sick from mold won’t do for the other guy who has one or more of these susceptible types, and that’s a person who has got to discard all his porous materials.

Suzanne Somers:

When a building  is sick, and you have the entire building remediated, do you ever really kill the mold spores?

Ritchie Shoemaker:

Moving is the easiest thing to do at first glance, but the National Institute of Occupational Safety and Health now says that 50 percent of our buildings are wet; whether you’re in L.A. or in Bangor, Maine, all have moisture problems.  When we did testing of fungal DNA from the EPS, we found once a person is identified as having mold illness, the chance of this person finding a house or an apartment or a living situation that’s safe is about one in seven. It’s just incredible.

So moving doesn’t make a whole lot of sense. And if you are not able to move to a tent in Arizona because you can’t leave your work, then how do you clean your house?  It used to be that we would say there’s not too much you can do, but now we have learned so much about the size of the particles that make people sick.

You have to stop all water intrusion so that the building envelopes are cleared and watertight. Then you have to get rid of porous materials and clean the nonporous, and usually get rid of the carpets. You must install a HEPA filter and then and only then can you start using particular fogging solutions provided by the manufacturer. The good ones that work have Borax in them, and that’s about it.  You can actually take a home that was unfixable and now make it clean.

Suzanne Somers:

I’m feeling relief. For a moment there I thought it was sounding hopeless. So that’s a big step unless you are one of the unfortunate ones with the HLA gene with all the numbers behind it?

Ritchie Shoemaker:



3) Michael Pinto – Wonder Makers

Cleaning Contents from Mold-Contaminated Environments


4) Greg Weatherman – aerobioLogical Solutions

A Condensed Remediation Plan for Small Microbial Particles


5) Mould Support Australia

FAQ Remediation & Mold Prevention


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